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is this video gone? I can't find it.


bob's post at the top of this page.

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I see a description on that page, but no video.

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I see a description on that page, but no video.


this one work?

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bingo.

wow. somebody needs to tell scientology to tame the cock.

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He's so far gone that I don't know what to do with him. I just can't imagine that arrogance, delusion, etc, it takes to get to where you're as far along as he is.

File this in the category of Shit That Makes Squirrgle Wanna Go Live In Teh Woods.

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I'm certainly not defending that weirdo but it seemed like he was just rambling on and on without saying anything. I didn't really hear anything that made me think he was more off the deep end than i ever thought he was. Maybe i'm just immune to this bs living down the street from the L Ron Hubbard Dianetics Center.

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THOSE GOONS GOT TO BILLY G

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I guess it was more his conviction, and his (or really scientology's) apparent self-appointment as spokesman, expert, savior, etc, that has me rattled.

[insert Rads "all religion does this" here, perhaps]

...interesting.

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I'm not quite sure what that video is about except helping and responsibilities.


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timmyjoe42 Wrote:
I'm not quite sure what that video is about except helping and responsibilities.


claiming the right / mandate to be the sole help, yes.

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is this video gone? I can't find it.


http://gawker.com/5002269/the-cruise-indoctrination-video-scientology-tried-to-suppress

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Highlight reel of the Tom Cruise video in under two minutes.

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That's officially My Favourite Clip of All Time.

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two guns holla Wrote:
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1. where's his wedding ring?


It's from 2005 - was he married then? I honestly have no idea.


didn't realize it was from '05. you're probably right. thanks.

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Wow, this video is boring and would dissuade me from wanting to become a UFO-chaser.


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And for the record, this one just has all his creepy laughs and abbreviations (KSW etc). It's not the truly creepy stuff, where he outlines Scientology's mandate to change the world.


Also, Neuro brought up a good point, which I had glossed over too quickly (as I am wont to do). The largest flower in Tom's bouquet of insanity is probably altruism (my words and conclusion, not his). The guy seems to genuinely want to help people. This, and the swift/strong dose of responsibility they espouse are the kernels of decency that slips this whole ball of shit past the unwary.

But your brain is not a computer that you can just will do to whatever you want, no matter how many acronyms and fake words you create for your problems. Ask PopTodd or Charli... sometimes things just ain't wired right. Oh and even the tamed-down wiki entry is scary. I didn't realize they sued a cult watchdog organization into bankruptcy, then bought them, and started operating them under the same name as an outreach/recruiting program.

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The responsibility schtick seems to be a thinly veiled demand that people work harder to give more money to the church (or pay the church to 'train' them to do those noble things - not trivial sums at all). It's how these guys work. Creeps.


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yeah if you pay people a per-head-bonus to recruit for your church, it's not a church. sorgee.

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THE ENTIRE "AWARDS" CEREMONY AT WHICH THE SCIENTOLOGISTS HONORED TOM CRUISE AS THE GREATEST THETAN EVER!!!

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I was about to post the same thing: here is part 1 of 6 (with links to the other 5 in there).

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So apparently there's this album called The Joy Of Creating that has Issac Hayes, Chick Corea, Edgar Winter and Doug E. Fresh on it but I haven't been able to hear it because even though the Scientologists are so great, they can't create a website for shit.

Here's the lyrics to Doug E's songs

Doug E. Fresh - The Joy Of Creating

Hey! Hey! Could somebody tell me where the party at?

Put’em up, put’em up, put’em up,
put your hands up, put’em up,
I see ya — bass line! Come on!

Yo what’s up y’all,
this is Doug E. Fresh
Much love and much respect
and this is “The Joy of Creating.”
Come on!
Now let me tell you something,
watch this.
You know what —

Force yourself to smile and you’ll soon stop frowning.

Force yourself to laugh and you’ll soon find something to laugh about.

Ain’t that right? Ya see?

Wax enthusiastic and you’ll very soon feel so.

A being causes his own feelings.

It’s “The Joy of Creating” y’all.
It’s “The Joy of Creating” y’all.
Come on! Put’em up, yeh.

The greatest joy
there is in life
is creating.

Splurge on it!

Come on!
Ain’t that right?
It’s “The Joy of Creating” y’all.
Ain’t that right? Watch this!

Jump around if you know you love creating.

Jump around if you know you love creating.
Jump around if you,
Jump around if you,
Put up your hands if you know that you’re down.

Say joy, say joy.

Yo! There’s a positive force and a negative force
And a spiritual being has the freedom of choice
I can make music by using my voice,
Turn a frown to a smile, make people rejoice
From a real good feeling that’s hard to fake
The greatest gift in life is to love create
So don’t hesitate, just communicate
And get in the game and participate
Splurge on it!
Splurge on it!
Come on!

It’s “The Joy of Creating” y’all.
Ain’t that right?
“Joy of Creating” y’all.
Come on!
Put’em, put’em, put’em up now.
Put’em, put’em, put’em up now.
Put’em up now.

That’s what it’s all about, baby!


We're Going Up While The World Goes Down

Can I get a witness?
Now I say —
I will sing a little song
Of how the world went wrong
And turn for you a page
About earth's darkest age

They couldn't make it go
For they really didn't know
And everything caved in
And went into a spin
For the world was going down, down, down to die.
But I say —

CHORUS:
We're going up while the world goes down
We wear a smile while the world wears a frown
While other things die we are very alive
So why not join us and survive?

I was on a college campus
And the books were all ablaze
The night sticks were a-flying
And the tear gas made a haze

A bunch of students screaming
Knocked me to the ground
As they tore up the militia
And broke windows all around
I was in a Safeway row
Of housewives and no chow
Who said they'd been forsaken
By even moldy bacon

The manager's cruel cry
Was the actual why
They'd ate up all the animals
And now must turn to cannibals

For the world was going down, down, down to die.
But said I —

CHORUS

I swam in muddy oceans
With no need of sunburn lotions
For no sun could ever shine
Through the air and water slime

The garbage became mountains
And sewage sprayed in fountains
For there was no solution
To extremes of earth pollution

I saw all the heads of state
Run out an open gate
But even in revolt
Mankind was a dolt

And just set up again
Whatever they had slain
And hungered for the rule
Of any stupid fool
For the world was going down, down, down to die.
But said I —

CHORUS

With a long syringe
The doctors had a binge
In socking in the drugs
And making children into mugs

And psychiatry did think
Of all heads they could shrink
They'd stop all copulation
And control the population

The crashes of inflation
Spread out across each nation
Until all their paper money
Became extremely funny

And it took two trucks
Loaded with the bucks
To buy a loaf of bread
From a baker that was dead

For the world was going down, down, down to die.
But said I —

CHORUS

Do not be a fool
And think you can get fuel
For nothing could be worse
Than Rockyfeller's purse.

And you sit like a toad
At the side of the road
In a rig that is balking
Even worse than walking

As the smoky air descends
And they meet their choking ends
Stand and watch it for a while
And try to hide your smile.

It's their bed and there they lay
The price is theirs to pay
And it's millions they will spend
As they go around the bend

When the world was going down, down, down to die.
But said I —

CHORUS

Wait a minute, listen:

But then we saw a way
That man could work and play
In summer and the sun
And all the world was one

For we can set you free
And a better guy you'll be
And give you liberty
And Scientology

In a world we're taking up, up, up way high.

CHORUS:

We're going up while the world goes down
We wear a smile while the world wears a frown
While other things die we are very alive
So why not join us and survive?

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Holy shit if that clip about the firefighters at Ground Zero wasn't the best thing. I'm gonna have to send that one around.

Why does the Secretary of Education need subtitles?

Aw fuck, I just keep seeing shit. Did he just salute L. Ron?

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now I was admit I was drifting between sleep and wake, but on the shuttle on the way in this morning, listening to Radcliffe's Thin Lizzy mix, I could have SWORN the dude was singing almost the same thing fucknut was saying in that interview:

Scary McGuire Wrote:
...people are turning to you, so you better know it. You BETTER know it. And if you don't, you know, go, and Learn it!"



I woke up a little when I heard it, and was like "must... remember which song this is.... must.... make mental note [Zzzzzzzzzzz]"

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This video is a pretty funny edited version of the Cruise clip.

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couple things. . . watching that stuff again it's the clear-eyed, seemingly lucid realizations that he's having that make it so creepy. and, to tell you the truth hearing him talk abotu "ksw" (aka, keeping scientology working) isn't substantively different from watching some looney-bin christian blather on about similar things. he just uses acronyms and "policy letters" instead of biblical scripture.

and, secondly, for all your scientology needs. . . and blogs from ex-scientologists who tell all. . . i give you the scientology critical information directory. i found it when i googled "ksw" and "sp" to try to figure out what the hell he was talking about

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