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 Post subject: Why do we even have "Pop" on here anyway?
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Honestly, the bands talked about here are about as popular as Amy Grant's booth at a death metal convention. Musuleni's illfated musical "Hitler and Me, A Love Story" gets more attention than half the stuff talked about here. So why the pop reference?


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I think that pop, taken less literally, now describes a sound or aesthetic.

I would say there's some "pop" in the Shins' music, for example.


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there are traces of pop on here... kanye's in a bunch of people's year-end-lists, modest mouse went billboard top 100 & bright eyes scored a top 2. "pop" is short for "popular" and if enough people like the music, regardless of how much us obners like it, then the music is "pop".

clay aikens is the new ben gibbard :P

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pop = not classical

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Today I'm listening to The Delgados, Orange Juice and Morrissey and I'd say all of those are 'pop'. Indie pop, but pop none the less.

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there are traces of pop on here... kanye's in a bunch of people's year-end-lists, modest mouse went billboard top 100 & bright eyes scored a top 2. "pop" is short for "popular" and if enough people like the music, regardless of how much us obners like it, then the music is "pop".

clay aikens is the new ben gibbard :P



Doesn't bother me in the least. The Shins and New Pornographers are pop and while Radiohead don't really fit into the category of "pop" in the classic sense they are wildly "popular".

<------constantly fascinated by pop culture. Anna Nicole Smith the latest pop figure to confound.


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I thought you Midwesterners were talking about soda. :D


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It's so we can accept discussions of Radiohead.


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The likes of St Etienne, Suede, and Pulp may not exactly rock but they are Britpop.


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More than half of what I like could be called pop:

sophistipop, dreampop, indiepop, folkpop, alternapop, powerpop, etc, etc. It's just a suffix now.


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pop goes the weasel goes the weasel goes pop

dued, i buy generic cuz i don't believe in labels.

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For the onomatopoeia, man!


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Not only is it an onomatopieia it's also a palindrome. Is there anything 'pop' can't do?

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someone quick call snap & crackle!

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i have a fear of pop

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In Cincinnati, we have pop. Other places have soda.


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timmyjoe42 Wrote:
In Cincinnati, we have pop. Other places have soda.


I've called it pop my entire life. Everyone else is just weird.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 8:25 pm 
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let's settle this debate: http://www.popvssoda.com/


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I really only drink Dr. Pepper, but if I were to ask if you wanted a carbonated drink, it would most likely come out as "You want a Coke or something?"

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Are you serious? I browse through these forums and think "why do we have rock up there.

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Modest Mouse has always been a college thang, just cause they sell a few records don't mean nuthin.


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from wikipedia.com:

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pop music vs popular music - pop music is a more or less specific genre, while popular music is a broader term that includes pop music as well as most folk music and any other music not classical.


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